01/10/2005
If an effect puts Golgari Grave-Troll onto the battlefield from your graveyard, Golgari Grave-Troll counts itself as one of the cards in your graveyard and gets a counter accordingly.

400.6. If an object would move from one zone to another, determine what event is moving the object. If the object is moving to a public zone, its owner looks at it to see if it has any abilities that would affect the move. Then any appropriate replacement effects, whether they come from that object or from elsewhere, are applied to that event. If any effects or rules try to do two or more contradictory or mutually exclusive things to a particular object, that object’s controller—or its owner if it has no controller—chooses which effect to apply, and what that effect does. (Note that multiple instances of the same thing may be mutually exclusive; for example, two simultaneous “destroy” effects.) Then the event moves the object.

pour le troll, je ne suis pas d'accord avec ce qui a été dit : il arrive sur le cdb en se disant "que vais-je être?"... là il regarde le dessus du grave et se voit lui-même, donc l'effet de remplacement du troll ne s'appliquera pas

si c'est le changeforme qui se trouvait sur le dessus du cimetière juste au dessus de la carte de créature avec un "au moment où ... arrive sur le cdb", on n'appliquera pas les effets de cette capacité.