Makexime
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[1vs1 20 pv] Banlist du 17/07/2017
le 17/07/2017 20:26
Je vous envoi les info tel quel de FB:

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JULY 2017 RULES / BANLIST UPDATE
IL Y A 9 MINUTES · PUBLIC
The last 3 months were quite interesting for our beloved format, with lots of great tournaments and a large affluence at those tournaments. With such a large data and a careful study of the Magic Online 1vs1 Commander updates, we found that the following changes would improve Duel Commander tournaments.
Changes:

👉 Individual card changes:
Geist of Saint Traft is now banned as as commander only.
Jace, Vryn’s Prodigy is now banned as as commander only.
Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder is now banned as as commander only.

Polymorph is now banned.
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is now banned.

Ancient Tomb is now legal.
Mind Twist is now legal.
Fastbond is now legal.
👉 Don’t forget to check out our Current Lists Facebook note for a recap of all the currently banned cards.
These changes apply on July 21, 2017. Of course, you can still contact us via this Facebook page. The next announcements will be published on September 25, 2017 (applying on September 29, 2017).

Until then, we wish you all many good games! :)

Further individual explanations:



Geist of Saint Traft
It’s always hard to remove a historical commander. The true, recurring, solid outs that Geist of Saint Traft provides were already a strong problem when facing a higher starting life total, which they proved to be even more efficient at blowing up now, several months after they even got lowered back to normal.

Geist of Saint Traft is one of the rare handfuls of commanders which have the evil hexproof ability, and the cheapest of them. The absolute lack of interactions it offers, the immediate pressure it gives -despite the absence of moxen- and the killing clock it gives, as much as its position in the format, forbidding many building strategies to exist or annihilating them makes Geist of Saint Traft too toxic to remain in the command zone.


Jace, Vryn’s Prodigy
Among all the available commanders for control decks, Jace, Vryn’s Prodigy is without a doubt the most proactive one. It enters the battlefield very early, it sculpts its owner’s hand efficiently, up to the point that player can compose his or her deck with very “metagame” cards, like Hydroblast, or Mind Harness. During the game, it favours blue’s favourite weapons, like instants and sorceries, abilities like flashback or delve, and generates card advantage easily. At some point, it allows setting up degenerate synergies that will quickly end games, with cards like Intuition, functional copycats of Time Walk, or High Tide.
Jace, Vryn’s Prodigy definitely has too many elements in its favor to remain eligible to the Command zone. In order to open the diversity of the format, Jace, Vryn’s Prodigy is now banned as a commander.


Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder
Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder is a strong card. But most problematically: it’s a toxic card. It shaped the metagame by removing all fair aggressive decks and most midrange decks. It is focusing the format by losing against mono-blue decks and beating mono-blue decks predators. Banning Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder also allows keeping the very interesting Partner keyword which favours original and exotic deckbuilding. So it’s unfortunately time for Bruse Tarl, Boorish Herder to leave us.




Polymorph
Having a gigantic creature entering the battlefield at a reduced cost is a dreadful strategy that should be subject to reasonable constraints. The interaction between Polymorph and the Command zone makes it unfair. Indeed, in Duel Commander, Polymorph is definitely freed from its initial constraint: producing a creature without playing creature cards. We’re reaching the breaking point of those reasonable constraints when Polymorph is paired with highly synergic commanders like Baral, Chief of Compliance (that allows it to happen on turn 3) or Vendilion Clique (which controls possible answers). Because of the danger it represents in Duel Commander, Polymorph is now banned.


Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn is most of the time the end of any strategic approach of a game. Being nearly impossible to kill and having Annihilator 6 makes it overwhelming. If Emrakul, the Aeons Torn was only cast during the later parts of games, it wouldn’t be a problem. But with cards like Synthetic Destiny or even Through the Breach it can enter the battlefield way too early. The card is also very (very) rarely cast for {15}. Adding no value to format and causing some trouble, we choose to ban Emrakul, the Aeons Torn from Duel Commander.



Ancient Tomb
The ban of Ancient Tomb is mostly an archaism of the 30 starting life totals era. Without any playable aggressive strategy, it was a flawless 2-mana land. This is not true today anymore! Ancient Tomb is still a great card, but a very risky one. Bringing back Ancient Tomb also promotes strategic complexity of the format by offering more versatility in mana development. So… Welcome back Ancient Tomb! But beware: the world has changed...





Mind Twist
Mind Twist is one of the first cards to be banned in Magic, back in 1994. Even if there are many combinations one could dream of with Mind Twist (with fast mana elves or Dark Ritual, for example) most of the time it ends up being an expensive Hymn to Tourach. Also, fast mana is now getting harder to produce in Duel Commander. The pro-active metagame also means more active decks and Mind Twisting an opponent’s hand by turn 4 is not such a good deal now. The command zone also reduces the impact of mass discard. This is why we think it’s the right time to bring back this iconic card in Duel Commander.



Fastbond
Fastbond is explosive in most early games (with many more conditions than it looks, though) and often forsaken in the late game state, despite the presence of Crucible of Worlds or The Gitrog Monster, or Ramunap Excavator. Despite the fact that it has led to aberrant starts in the past, the drawback is now far more problematic. Fastbond still holds a high potential, yet it is tamed by the pace of the format we’ve had for a few months now. We also think Duel Commander is more spectacular with that kind of broken cards than when played with four copies. Therefore, Fastbond is worth a come back.
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difool2
Soissons, Chnord
le 17/07/2017 20:28
J'ai encore deux de mes decks ban. Faudrait commencer à se calmer sur les bans cher comité! :(
walkingdead07
le 17/07/2017 20:30
Outch!
4 generaux bannis ca fait mal :-D
(Polymorph & Emrakul ca revient au ban de Baral en gros)

Content de voir que Zurgo est encore dans la course.
difool2
Soissons, Chnord
le 17/07/2017 20:33
A part Thymna/Thrasios, il reste quoi comme paquet partenaire viable?
SnapVigne44
Modérateur, Forum modern
Druide
le 17/07/2017 20:33
Citation :
(Polymorph & Emrakul ca revient au ban de Baral en gros

pas sûr, ça revient juste à changer son optique selon moi! m'enfin ça nerf ses free-win, du coup c'est plutôt pas mal... :)

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Content de voir que Zurgo est encore dans la course.

idem, mais du coup vu que rien dans Zurgo n'a été banni et que Bruse l'a été, est-ce que ça va pas encore faire plus de Zurgo sur les tournois? :/
magicdeck77

le 17/07/2017 20:34
Ils auraient dû Ban Zurgo juste parce qu'on va voir plus que ça en tournoi...
NoOse
Montpellier
le 17/07/2017 20:34
Hahahahahahahahahaha!

Fastbond! Je vais ressortir ma Grenouille!
Nabokov
Autiste, A Sperger
le 17/07/2017 20:35
Kalitas va devenir très bon :)
walkingdead07
le 17/07/2017 20:36
C'est simple de lutter contre Zurgo.
Si il y a plus de Zurgo, ca fera plus de free-win pour les bons joueurs.
Makexime
Légende
le 17/07/2017 20:44
Gitrog et Titania prennent un méchant UP.

Et ça fait plaisir de pouvoir rejouer Titi, même si le MU Zurgo va être partagé.

Putain Zurgo non ban, c'est la meilleur chose qui soit, c'est tellement facile à métagame contre.

Et SURTOUT, un deban de Mind Twist <3<3<3<3<3
Depuis le temps que je le demande, vous pourrez désormais faire un Gitrog avec des dorks (c'est fort les dorks), ancient tomb, fastbond, pour faire un Mindtwist assassin dès le T1 :D
SnapVigne44
Modérateur, Forum modern
Druide
le 17/07/2017 20:51
Beurk, pourquoi vouloir mettre des dorks dans Gitrog? :o
Makexime
Légende
le 17/07/2017 20:58
Juste pour Mindtwist <3 (au cas où pas fastbond en main de depart)
mvsym
le 17/07/2017 21:00
Mindtwist pour la nostalgie ?
mvsym
le 17/07/2017 21:00
Sinon ils ont défoncé tout le Tier 1, non ?
macross76
Le Havre, France
le 17/07/2017 21:09
ma glissa va pouvoir intégrer un bon plan discard^^' Mind twist+Parallax Nexus :D
macross76
Le Havre, France
le 17/07/2017 21:23
Noskcaj : que tu ne sois pas d'accord avec le comité, soit(du moment que les arguments sont là). Par contre les insultes on s'en passe volontier. Surtout avec des théories fumeuses derrières.
nathramn
Lyon, Team trashtalk
le 17/07/2017 21:24
t'es modo toi, t'es sûr ?

(j'aurais tendance à dire "modo raté" du coup...)
Nabokov
Autiste, A Sperger
le 17/07/2017 21:24
bah c'est connu que noskcaj est amoureux du comité, on s'y fait à force :)
macross76
Le Havre, France
le 17/07/2017 21:27
Modo, non. Je veux bien qu'on soit contre les décisions du comité mais se genre de messages n'apporte rien.
mvsym
le 17/07/2017 21:29
C'est tellement le pied de débloquer le DC avec ce bon coup de balayette !
meideros
Lyon

Légende
le 17/07/2017 21:30
Super ban list, meme si je suis un peu triste pour les joueurs historiques de geist.

Va falloir se preparer a bouffer du zurgo par contre ....

Citation :
de deux chose l'une, soit votre comité est incompétent (parce que bon, pour prendre ce genre de décision, surtout sans anticiper les évidentes conséquences que snap évoque très bien, et please le non ban de partner)...


osef
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