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Combo proposée le 04/01/2018, commentaire de Morosophe :

Sous Blood Sun, certains drawback de terrain deviennent très négligeables... Là, on s'épargne le sacrifice de terrains et on produit 3 manas en plus, ce qui peut faire des tours 4 assez agréables, ou bien avant si on prend le format au sérieux...

Cela fonctionne aussi avec Ruines dévastées.

NdZeSword: C'est effectivement un changement récent de règles qui rend cela possible.

Some replacement effects modify how a permanent enters the battlefield. (See rules 614.1c-d.) Such effects may come from the permanent itself if they affect only that permanent (as opposed to a general subset of permanents that includes it). They may also come from other sources. To determine which replacement effects apply and how they apply, check the characteristics of the permanent as it would exist on the battlefield, taking into account replacement effects that have already modified how it enters the battlefield (see rule 616.1), continuous effects generated by the resolution of spells or abilities that changed the permanent's characteristics on the stack (see rule 400.7a), and continuous effects from the permanent's own static abilities, but ignoring continuous effects from any other source that would affect it.


Some replacement effects modify how a permanent enters the battlefield. (See rules 614.1c-d.) Such effects may come from the permanent itself if they affect only that permanent (as opposed to a general subset of permanents that includes it). They may also come from other sources. To determine which replacement effects apply and how they apply, check the characteristics of the permanent as it would exist on the battlefield, taking into account replacement effects that have already modified how it enters the battlefield (see rule 616.1), continuous effects from the permanent's own static abilities that would apply to it once it's on the battlefield, and continuous effects that already exist and would apply to the permanent.


Ainsi, maintenant la capacité de Blood Sun est prise en compte pour savoir si oui ou non on va appliquer l'effet de remplacement du Lotus Vale, et la réponse est donc non: on ne l'applique pas. C'est le même principe que ce qui a été expliqué pour le Magus of the Moon dans l'article officiel des Release Notes liées à la sortie d'Iconic Masters:

If a nonbasic land has an ability that applies "as [this land] enters the battlefield" or that causes it to enter the battlefield tapped or with counters, the land will lose that ability before it applies. This is a change from previous rules.

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Gromph
le 04/01/2018 19:04
J'y ai pensé et j'ai hésité à la poster de suite. ^^ ;)
Bien joué !
En +, j'ai le set des lotus vale, depuis fort longtemps !
Morosophe
Lille, France
Spectre
le 04/01/2018 21:01
Il semblerait pourtant que cela ne marche pas ...
Morosophe
Lille, France
Spectre
le 04/01/2018 22:33
ça MMMMAAAARRRRCHHHHHHEEEEEEEE finalement :D
Lyo
M'enfin ?!!

le 07/01/2018 15:44
Ça marche aussi avec Lake of the Dead ou les bouncelands de Ravnica (Rakdos Carnarium par ex) ou de Visions (Karoo )
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